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Under-fire Boothroyd explains switches
5:54pm Saturday 19th April 2008
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By Kevin Affleck »
Aidy Boothroyd said his baffling decison to replace Jobi McAnuff with Mat Sadler was tactical.
With Watford a goal behind and chasing the game, Boothroyd opted to replace McAnuff, one of his most creative players, with Sadler and move the left-footed Jordan Stewart to the right-hand side of midfield.
Nathan Ellington, meanwhile, was left warming the bench until three minutes from time when he was introduced Stewart.
"Jobi wasn't injured," confirmed Boothroyd. "I just wanted to change it around and get some inswinging balls into the box and test Speroni and their back four.
"We were dominant for long periods and bringing Jobi off and putting Jordan there gives us a better aerial threat."
McAnuff described the afternoon as "one of the most disappointing of my career".
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Des, Hatch End says...
6:11pm Sat 19 Apr 08
This sums up how clueless Hoofroyd is.
Anyone who wants him to stay is welcome to watch the crap his teams serve up next season.
Des
Anyone who wants him to stay is welcome to watch the crap his teams serve up next season.
Des
mattymashup, letchworth says...
6:11pm Sat 19 Apr 08
fingers crossed we will still make the playoffs. what a strange game, one we could have won, i think we need to go 4-3-3 and attack more. boothroyds job will be in doubt come end of season if we dont go up, how we have thrown it all away i do not know
Bendean, Snorbens says...
6:12pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Boofers should really keep his mouth shut. Does he really think JS playing on the right is going to win the game for us. This is mind boggling.
hoarse, chalfont says...
6:37pm Sat 19 Apr 08
it has become evident since end October how much we miss KB's advice.17 home league games won3 drawn6 L8.15 points from 51.todays game was there for the taking but Jonjo on a yellow and not in the game meant Boothroyd needed Williamson on quickly, instead he took off our real attacking threat.The manager has moulded the club to his pattern,they are his tactics, his signings,his assistants,and his responsibility.now the whole sorry episode is due to his complete incompetance.
Mark, Watford says...
7:05pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Aren't most of our players English speaking?
So why do Aidy and co need to spend so long writing comments for a sub before they come on which takes about 10 mins!
I mean if your 1/2 goals down does the player really need to work out what is required from them?
So why do Aidy and co need to spend so long writing comments for a sub before they come on which takes about 10 mins!
I mean if your 1/2 goals down does the player really need to work out what is required from them?
chris, hemel says...
7:08pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Doesn't this just sum up AB. Totally inept, totally clueless, out of his depth, and losing the dressing room by the minute.
What player in their right mind would want to come and play for him now?
Do us all a favour AB and take one of those 18 job offers you've had, because if this carries on you won't even get a job in the Conference League, let alone the Prem.
What player in their right mind would want to come and play for him now?
Do us all a favour AB and take one of those 18 job offers you've had, because if this carries on you won't even get a job in the Conference League, let alone the Prem.
SIMMO, BUCKS says...
7:46pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Stoke have won so automatic has gone ,that was boothroyds target ,BUT the clueless ,tactically inept ,baffling manager should do the decent thing and resign NOW ,i will drive you to any one of the 18 clubs that want you ,the thought of watching this mind numbing hoofball for another season is not on SIMPSON sort it out now if you have any thing about you he is making OUR club a laughing stock ,1 nil down and Macanuff for once fired up as playing against his former club ,playing well ,there fullback on a booking AND the idiot Boothroyd takes him off and puts Stewart RIGHT WING !!! THAT incompetant decision alone should see him SACKED !
OUT OUT OUT !!
OUT OUT OUT !!
hornetchris61, garston says...
7:50pm Sat 19 Apr 08
i watched aidy & malky, looking at their board, scribbling notes and working out what to tell the subs and what messagetoo pass on to the team. N E had to wait so long he put his coat back on. jay even sat back down. This was with 12 mins to go. The ball went out of play 5 times before Aidy put on his subs. What was the plan ... "Nat, you get a goal, tell Darius hes got toget one after they restart, oh and tell Tamas, love him to get one to. Still always look on the bright side , we might get em back in the play offs, and rather win those games than this.
chris, the vic says...
8:06pm Sat 19 Apr 08
I can understand the switch...but it didnt work hence JS being substituted.
Cant understand how JJ stayed on the pitch after half time he was so bad and needs resting it is easy to forget his age.
Cant understand how JJ stayed on the pitch after half time he was so bad and needs resting it is easy to forget his age.
Darren, Canada says...
8:23pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Why did we ever sign Ainsworth or Rinaldi?
Collins John...mechanically unfit? No goalkeeper on the bench? This is professional football, not Sunday League. What if Richard Lee had got hurt, it does happen.
I am starting to lose respect now for the manager and I do not like to say that. But I just cannot understand his decisions. If we make the playoffs it will be a sorry exit early on, but at least that will put me and probably many others out of this misery.
Collins John...mechanically unfit? No goalkeeper on the bench? This is professional football, not Sunday League. What if Richard Lee had got hurt, it does happen.
I am starting to lose respect now for the manager and I do not like to say that. But I just cannot understand his decisions. If we make the playoffs it will be a sorry exit early on, but at least that will put me and probably many others out of this misery.
Billie, Kings Langley says...
8:39pm Sat 19 Apr 08
What do you posters, particularly the clappers, make of AB bleating about lack of money being the reason for his tactics?
He has been backed financially better than any other WFC manager in history, and we must have spent more than almost any other club in the division. With WBA gaining £3.25m + NE's wages, and us losing the same, that presumably makes an £8m shift alone. Is it just me or are you sick of this idiot?
For the record, Sage reckons the sheltered housing money is ringfenced for the new stand...because the club said it was. It doesn't seem like it to me. Again, what do you all make of it. I reckon even though Colin is a wind up merchant, he read the tea leaves right.
He has been backed financially better than any other WFC manager in history, and we must have spent more than almost any other club in the division. With WBA gaining £3.25m + NE's wages, and us losing the same, that presumably makes an £8m shift alone. Is it just me or are you sick of this idiot?
For the record, Sage reckons the sheltered housing money is ringfenced for the new stand...because the club said it was. It doesn't seem like it to me. Again, what do you all make of it. I reckon even though Colin is a wind up merchant, he read the tea leaves right.
clueless, says...
8:42pm Sat 19 Apr 08
i was going to bet 10 quid on a 2-0 palace win at 11-1.i bottled it thinking our luck would change.i left last week against barnsley with 15 mins to go,today i left with 10 mins to go.i am totally disgusted with the durge that we are churning out.wfc hold your heads with shame.what a totally shambolic performance.words fail me.i cant see goals coming at all.jj overplayed(needs resting-not good enough)henderson marked all the time.priskin off side or fouling opponent.JORDAN STEWART!!!!.what a joke.hoothroyd your time is up,do the right thing NOW!.i cant believe i have actually paid for my season ticket for next season.what a fuc&$ng mug!!
andywatford, watford says...
8:43pm Sat 19 Apr 08
SACK HOOFROYD NOW ! how long do we have to suffer watching this total dross ? we are incapable of playing football, hoof the ball to henderson and look for the knock down easy eh ? only its not worked since before christmas just mark hendo well and its game over !! all you who say boothroyd is great wake up and smell the coffee.. look at the signings.. record ellington total rubbish i'd rather have devon white back. matt jackson ten grand a week total pub player, jordan stewart say no more. williamson worse than a pub player. jobi macaduff played out of position. chase collins john for two years where is he ? apparantly according to the king of bs i mean spin hoofers. he keeps some great players out of the dutch international team. ? dont insult me. and he cant get in our side ? do one aidy ! and look at the players he did want sam parkin ? quality ? dj cambell ? didnt like the look of ebanks blake or saganowski. he didnt want king either that was a lucky accident. sells young bouazza and lets the only other left sided player leave ? baffeled ? i bloody am ! ashikodi ? hoskins ? seven grand a week reserves. rinaldi are you expecting us to belive wiliamson is better or john joe ? NO ! tactics hmmm great a must win game losing at home take off your most creative player and sub him with a defender and put your worst player out of position on the right ???? cluless ! SACK HIM NOW SIMPSON OR RESIGN YOURSELF ! Any one else notice we've been rubbish since Birkinshaw left ? now hoofers is on his own fish out of water springs to mind !!!
hornetchris61, garston says...
8:50pm Sat 19 Apr 08
anyone else notice that the clubs cashed the cheques and taken out the card money for season tickets this week.Too late to cancel now you bleating billy big times. As it is what ever league were in next season, got to agree somethings got to give.
Mark, Watford says...
8:50pm Sat 19 Apr 08
The Youth team are so much better...they at least try to play football.
They'd probably be fined for that in the 1st team...
They'd probably be fined for that in the 1st team...
zip, Hatred!!!!! says...
8:51pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Its time we had another fans forum, its time simpson and ashton ended their silence. Its time boofer the hoofer faced the wrath of the fans.
I'm not frustrated by not making promotion, im frustrated by the inept performances and the gutless home defeats...ifear for the future of the club.
Massive wage bills, ground development...and a spineless chairman...is Aidy the tail that wags the dog?....it would appear so.
C'mon...Billy Davies, Gary Johnson....there is another way.
I'm not frustrated by not making promotion, im frustrated by the inept performances and the gutless home defeats...ifear for the future of the club.
Massive wage bills, ground development...and a spineless chairman...is Aidy the tail that wags the dog?....it would appear so.
C'mon...Billy Davies, Gary Johnson....there is another way.
Sage Lazarus, says...
8:58pm Sat 19 Apr 08
It is now like visiting a loved one in prison must be.
you need to go out of loyalty but dread the experience & come away feeling worse than before.
You fear that your relative/friend is now nit only being rogered bt his cell mate but has beconme resigned to it & may even be starting to enjoy it.
Worse still the head warder oftens explanations that are increasingly ridiculous!
you need to go out of loyalty but dread the experience & come away feeling worse than before.
You fear that your relative/friend is now nit only being rogered bt his cell mate but has beconme resigned to it & may even be starting to enjoy it.
Worse still the head warder oftens explanations that are increasingly ridiculous!
VoR, Watford says...
9:13pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Sage Lazarus wrote:Interesting synopsis sage, obviously getting yourself worked up about the rogering fantasy has made your fingers very twitchy, difficulties in hitting the correct button bud?
It is now like visiting a loved one in prison must be.
you need to go out of loyalty but dread the experience & come away feeling worse than before.
You fear that your relative/friend is now nit only being rogered bt his cell mate but has beconme resigned to it & may even be starting to enjoy it.
Worse still the head warder oftens explanations that are increasingly ridiculous!
Wot are we to do? it's all gone terribly wrong, I say act now, what say you?
JohnBoy, Watford says...
9:19pm Sat 19 Apr 08
AB quoted on the BBC "I knew what Palace would be able to do and there's always a chance of creating with the pace they've got. We've created some unmissable chances and missed them. If you do that then that is what you get. We should have won 4-0."
Sorry but Boothroyd has lost the plot big time. His statements echo the state of his mind, confused.
His signings, tactics and statements are that of a confused man.
Sorry but Boothroyd has lost the plot big time. His statements echo the state of his mind, confused.
His signings, tactics and statements are that of a confused man.
Stan_Smith, herts says...
9:22pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Sage Lazarus wrote:couldnt of put it better myself! (the first part anyway)
It is now like visiting a loved one in prison must be. you need to go out of loyalty but dread the experience & come away feeling worse than before. You fear that your relative/friend is now nit only being rogered bt his cell mate but has beconme resigned to it & may even be starting to enjoy it. Worse still the head warder oftens explanations that are increasingly ridiculous!
Stan_Smith, herts says...
9:29pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Sage Lazarus wrote:couldnt of put it better myself! (the first part anyway)
It is now like visiting a loved one in prison must be. you need to go out of loyalty but dread the experience & come away feeling worse than before. You fear that your relative/friend is now nit only being rogered bt his cell mate but has beconme resigned to it & may even be starting to enjoy it. Worse still the head warder oftens explanations that are increasingly ridiculous!
Sage Lazarus, says...
9:29pm Sat 19 Apr 08
VOR--it was hearing about your borstal times that inspired me--how you must miss the showers,eh?
Action?
No, in fact aidy v a new mngr with a few million less due to paying him & others off is still a better bet. But if we fail to go up & he resigns then OK.
Mngmnt is not about knee jerk punishment it is about what is best for WFc- & unless he chose to go then we have to keep him & hope he gets it right next year.
Action?
No, in fact aidy v a new mngr with a few million less due to paying him & others off is still a better bet. But if we fail to go up & he resigns then OK.
Mngmnt is not about knee jerk punishment it is about what is best for WFc- & unless he chose to go then we have to keep him & hope he gets it right next year.
Sage Lazarus, says...
9:31pm Sat 19 Apr 08
BTW--anti Js stuff is dumb--he was one of better ones today--JE was well off pace but overall a very flat perf from a team that lacks belief in :
The game plan
Themselvers
The Manager
MOM? LD ( until he screwed up for second goal)
The game plan
Themselvers
The Manager
MOM? LD ( until he screwed up for second goal)
VoR, Watford says...
9:31pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Little bloody o in VoR!!!
Mike Ashcroft, London says...
9:53pm Sat 19 Apr 08
OK, guys - cool the negativity. Aidy, Mark & Graham are our top team: proven high performance leaders who need our backing through the hard times. Am I right? OK we've plateau'd, but that's only because our productivity expectations are high - thanks to those three dynamic guys, right? I've seen this before across many high-pressure business scenarios, believe me. We've had a three-year above-maximal return on & off the game & we're punching above our benchmark weight as an organisation, with a great strategic capability and soon to be welcoming ground facility for ordinary people & VIP guests. But now we need to leverage all our skills as a workforce & pull together, & get behind the Gloden boys. This means you! Because currently we're revealing a skills gap as a middle team that defeats goal expectations. We're in the play-offs, guys - celebrate! Let's have some positivity. If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen. Or better still, step right up to the plate & put your money & reputations on the line. I'm committed, to Aidy & the lads, are you? Things are still looking fresh. Wake up and smell the coffee!
Sage Lazarus, says...
10:00pm Sat 19 Apr 08
VoR wrote:not after your fun in the showers v O r!
Little bloody o in VoR!!!
when you went in it was the size of a 5p and when you came out it was more like a 50p
still you were 45p up!
Stevie,, says...
10:05pm Sat 19 Apr 08
I feel as frustrated and peed off like everyone else but the cold facts are who do we replace AB with if he goes.
Who is out there who'd want the job?
P.S Even I felt sorry for NE today, what was he supposed to do 2-0 down and a couple of mins left til the end..
Who is out there who'd want the job?
P.S Even I felt sorry for NE today, what was he supposed to do 2-0 down and a couple of mins left til the end..
VoR, Watford says...
10:22pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Sage Lazarus wrote:OMG, TBH, BTW, LOL !!!!
VoR wrote:not after your fun in the showers v O r!
Little bloody o in VoR!!!
when you went in it was the size of a 5p and when you came out it was more like a 50p
still you were 45p up!
henry, oxhey says...
10:23pm Sat 19 Apr 08
The spectre of Bassett is stalking the club !!
Peter Phillips, Loudwater says...
10:42pm Sat 19 Apr 08
I don't understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist after the result today. What did they expect? We have no strikers except, on a good day, DH. This has been the case since MK went and was replaced by players that can only be described as rubbish. The manager always takes off a front player and brings on a defender early in the second half, whether we are winning, drawing or losing. He must have a Teach Yourself Football manual that tells him this is what he has to do. His substitutions have been quite mad - as they always have been. His buying of players has been woeful. However, we should make the play-off - we only neeed two points to make sure, but, sadly, if we go up under AB we will be a laughing stock. Since KB went AB has shown he is tactically clueless. If he is not sacked then I'd prefer us to be in the Championship than the Premiership. We would not look quite so inept.
paul jones, the grove says...
10:53pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Mike Ashcroft wrote:SHUT UP U PONCE!!!!
OK, guys - cool the negativity. Aidy, Mark & Graham are our top team: proven high performance leaders who need our backing through the hard times. Am I right? OK we've plateau'd, but that's only because our productivity expectations are high - thanks to those three dynamic guys, right? I've seen this before across many high-pressure business scenarios, believe me. We've had a three-year above-maximal return on & off the game & we're punching above our benchmark weight as an organisation, with a great strategic capability and soon to be welcoming ground facility for ordinary people & VIP guests. But now we need to leverage all our skills as a workforce & pull together, & get behind the Gloden boys. This means you! Because currently we're revealing a skills gap as a middle team that defeats goal expectations. We're in the play-offs, guys - celebrate! Let's have some positivity. If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen. Or better still, step right up to the plate & put your money & reputations on the line. I'm committed, to Aidy & the lads, are you? Things are still looking fresh. Wake up and smell the coffee!
Erik, Lincoln says...
11:25pm Sat 19 Apr 08
According to Boothroyd "I genuinely believe it will go to the wire". Perhaps, but we won't be involved. We seem to lack guile. He is probably trying to do imaginative tactical changes to unlock the opposition, but he ends up doing things that are bizarre and inexplicible to everyone even the players. The idea of getting in a young manager that was keen to learn for a good long haul so we had some continuity and growth was a good idea, but AB doesn't seem to be growing as a manager. At the begining of the season we would all have been happy with 5th if we knew Charlton and the Blades would do no better, but considering the money we have spent, how poor most Championship teams are and how we have failed to stop this awful run of results something needs to be done, by which I obviously mean a managerial shake-up. There is no point do anything until the end of the season. Who would come in at such short notice? And would a panic appointment be good in the long run? And does anyone fancy the idea of Malky McKay as caretaker manager for the play offs? Thought not. But as soon as the season ends interviews need to begin.
And by the way, the screen that popped up when logging on to the official website that talked about the Promotion push seems to have vanished. Perhaps somebody at the club has got a grip on reality.
And by the way, the screen that popped up when logging on to the official website that talked about the Promotion push seems to have vanished. Perhaps somebody at the club has got a grip on reality.
HiHo SilverLining, Norfolk says...
11:48pm Sat 19 Apr 08
Mike Ashcroft wrote:What a load of **** - only matched by what is being served up by Aidy week in week out.
OK, guys - cool the negativity. Aidy, Mark & Graham are our top team: proven high performance leaders who need our backing through the hard times. Am I right? OK we've plateau'd, but that's only because our productivity expectations are high - thanks to those three dynamic guys, right? I've seen this before across many high-pressure business scenarios, believe me. We've had a three-year above-maximal return on & off the game & we're punching above our benchmark weight as an organisation, with a great strategic capability and soon to be welcoming ground facility for ordinary people & VIP guests. But now we need to leverage all our skills as a workforce & pull together, & get behind the Gloden boys. This means you! Because currently we're revealing a skills gap as a middle team that defeats goal expectations. We're in the play-offs, guys - celebrate! Let's have some positivity. If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen. Or better still, step right up to the plate & put your money & reputations on the line. I'm committed, to Aidy & the lads, are you? Things are still looking fresh. Wake up and smell the coffee!
Look how Neil Warnock has turned Palace around, are we punching above our weight in achieving a 0-0 draw at home to Preston,are we punching above our weight in losing 3-0 at home to Barnsley...The wheels have fallen off the wagon, lets just give Aidy a little time to notice.
Steve W, Tewkesbury says...
12:10am Sun 20 Apr 08
You lot make me sick!! infact I am more mad at you lot posting this negative crap on here than I was after driving 200 mile round trip to see us loose agian.
I know I risk getting a real slating for this post and called a clapper bt I don't care im so F**king mad.
Yeah we are all Pi**ed off with the rersult and more worryingly how the season has gone since Nov.
It makes me mad having to read the 'boothroyd out' week in week out. We have two games to go and we will make the play offs. What the hell does sacking our manager do for us now?
We would not get a replacement in time anyway and lets see what decent maangers are out there waiting for a call from watford anyway.
I've posted before on this. The time to call for Aidy's head is at the end of the season not now.
The players need our support more than ever now we need unity. So we didn't reach the auto promotion but we will make the paly offs a great deal of teams would love to swap with us.
So we need to put it behind us give it our all for the final two games and then the play offs.
It's not gonna be easy (certainly given the way we are playing) but you never know and what we need is to give it our all and we need unity and for you lot to get behind the team and aidy.
If we don't make it I'll be at the front of the line with you all calling for his head but not now!!
I know I risk getting a real slating for this post and called a clapper bt I don't care im so F**king mad.
Yeah we are all Pi**ed off with the rersult and more worryingly how the season has gone since Nov.
It makes me mad having to read the 'boothroyd out' week in week out. We have two games to go and we will make the play offs. What the hell does sacking our manager do for us now?
We would not get a replacement in time anyway and lets see what decent maangers are out there waiting for a call from watford anyway.
I've posted before on this. The time to call for Aidy's head is at the end of the season not now.
The players need our support more than ever now we need unity. So we didn't reach the auto promotion but we will make the paly offs a great deal of teams would love to swap with us.
So we need to put it behind us give it our all for the final two games and then the play offs.
It's not gonna be easy (certainly given the way we are playing) but you never know and what we need is to give it our all and we need unity and for you lot to get behind the team and aidy.
If we don't make it I'll be at the front of the line with you all calling for his head but not now!!
rosh99, hereford says...
12:13am Sun 20 Apr 08
People I am sick. After having driven over 5000 miles to ome games this season and probably around 3000 miles to away games, I am finaly calling it quits on the club.
It sounds harsh but, until that blooody idiot Boothroyd goes, I will not waste my money watching those donkeys run around with no direction at all.
I have been going to the VIC for over 25 years now. Stop lining the pockets of AB. He is a conman and a sh*te manager. We do not want him ruining our club as we will be in League 1 in 12 months time. Save our club and boycott this sh*t.
It sounds harsh but, until that blooody idiot Boothroyd goes, I will not waste my money watching those donkeys run around with no direction at all.
I have been going to the VIC for over 25 years now. Stop lining the pockets of AB. He is a conman and a sh*te manager. We do not want him ruining our club as we will be in League 1 in 12 months time. Save our club and boycott this sh*t.
clueless, says...
12:16am Sun 20 Apr 08
IF we go up via the play-offs(highly unlikely)we will do worse than derby.i dont think i could stomach a season in the premier league.our style of play is awful.typically long ball(up and at em!!)it is an embarresment on monday buying the papers and reading how crap we are,having to explain to non watford fans how bad we are.i fear for next season as all our better players will leave and join championship clubs leaving us with the doyleys and the kabbas.cheap stunt having gs sit in the rookery.i should have pulled him up and told him a few home truths when i had the chance at half time.
rosh99, hereford says...
12:19am Sun 20 Apr 08
Steve W wrote:i drive much further than you each week mate and can only say that we are a disgrace. Accpeting what is beig served up by WFC and Boothroyd is an acceptance of failure and not what us real Watford supporters believe in.
You lot make me sick!! infact I am more mad at you lot posting this negative crap on here than I was after driving 200 mile round trip to see us loose agian. I know I risk getting a real slating for this post and called a clapper bt I don't care im so F**king mad. Yeah we are all Pi**ed off with the rersult and more worryingly how the season has gone since Nov. It makes me mad having to read the 'boothroyd out' week in week out. We have two games to go and we will make the play offs. What the hell does sacking our manager do for us now? We would not get a replacement in time anyway and lets see what decent maangers are out there waiting for a call from watford anyway. I've posted before on this. The time to call for Aidy's head is at the end of the season not now. The players need our support more than ever now we need unity. So we didn't reach the auto promotion but we will make the paly offs a great deal of teams would love to swap with us. So we need to put it behind us give it our all for the final two games and then the play offs. It's not gonna be easy (certainly given the way we are playing) but you never know and what we need is to give it our all and we need unity and for you lot to get behind the team and aidy. If we don't make it I'll be at the front of the line with you all calling for his head but not now!!
clueless, says...
12:20am Sun 20 Apr 08
IF we go up via the play-offs(highly unlikely)we will do worse than derby.i dont think i could stomach a season in the premier league.our style of play is awful.typically long ball(up and at em!!)it is an embarresment on monday buying the papers and reading how crap we are,having to explain to non watford fans how bad we are.i fear for next season as all our better players will leave and join championship clubs leaving us with the doyleys and the kabbas.cheap stunt having gs sit in the rookery.i should have pulled him up and told him a few home truths when i had the chance at half time.
rosh99, hereford says...
12:21am Sun 20 Apr 08
Dear Clueless, could agree more mate.
Steve W, Tewkesbury says...
12:28am Sun 20 Apr 08
rosh99 wrote:Rosh99
Steve W wrote: You lot make me sick!! infact I am more mad at you lot posting this negative crap on here than I was after driving 200 mile round trip to see us loose agian. I know I risk getting a real slating for this post and called a clapper bt I don't care im so F**king mad. Yeah we are all Pi**ed off with the rersult and more worryingly how the season has gone since Nov. It makes me mad having to read the 'boothroyd out' week in week out. We have two games to go and we will make the play offs. What the hell does sacking our manager do for us now? We would not get a replacement in time anyway and lets see what decent maangers are out there waiting for a call from watford anyway. I've posted before on this. The time to call for Aidy's head is at the end of the season not now. The players need our support more than ever now we need unity. So we didn't reach the auto promotion but we will make the paly offs a great deal of teams would love to swap with us. So we need to put it behind us give it our all for the final two games and then the play offs. It's not gonna be easy (certainly given the way we are playing) but you never know and what we need is to give it our all and we need unity and for you lot to get behind the team and aidy. If we don't make it I'll be at the front of the line with you all calling for his head but not now!!i drive much further than you each week mate and can only say that we are a disgrace. Accpeting what is beig served up by WFC and Boothroyd is an acceptance of failure and not what us real Watford supporters believe in.
Im not getting into a co*k fight about how far we drive. I used to live next to the red Lion does that make me any worse a supporter!
I simply can't agree with your comments. For christs sake how can you call the play offs a failuer? Blimy get real. Yeah agree it's not pretty but we are there. I know of two sides with us in last seasons prem that would galdly swap places with us.
You talk of real fans not sure what you mean by that. But let me tell u this. I am a real fan I support my team through thick or thin and believ me there has been soem thin times. I love watford and I want sucess. I don't care how we do it.
Steve W, Tewkesbury says...
12:34am Sun 20 Apr 08
clueless wrote:Mmmmm Clueless and Rosh99. I confused when did watford ever play neat passing football?
IF we go up via the play-offs(highly unlikely)we will do worse than derby.i dont think i could stomach a season in the premier league.our style of play is awful.typically long ball(up and at em!!)it is an embarresment on monday buying the papers and reading how crap we are,having to explain to non watford fans how bad we are.i fear for next season as all our better players will leave and join championship clubs leaving us with the doyleys and the kabbas.cheap stunt having gs sit in the rookery.i should have pulled him up and told him a few home truths when i had the chance at half time.
So we are suddenly an embarresment? 5th in the leauge teams don't like to play us (well until recently) we have always played long ball stuff. We don't have the players for any other type of game i'm afraid. You need to live in the real world.
Mark, Watford says...
1:27am Sun 20 Apr 08
"Stop lining the pockets of AB. He is a conman and a sh*te manager"
Whilst I agree he has gone poor in recent times with selections and signings...I bet you weren't daying that sort of stuff on May 21st 2006 though..;)
Funny how things have changed so quickly.
BTW Person moaning about Doyley and Kabba - well I agree they are not great but at least they make an effort unlike some of the more so called talented players we have.
Whilst I agree he has gone poor in recent times with selections and signings...I bet you weren't daying that sort of stuff on May 21st 2006 though..;)
Funny how things have changed so quickly.
BTW Person moaning about Doyley and Kabba - well I agree they are not great but at least they make an effort unlike some of the more so called talented players we have.
Mark, Watford says...
1:27am Sun 20 Apr 08
Yes I agree...who really wants to go up!
Only the money men.
Only the money men.
Watford Boy, Kings Cross says...
1:33am Sun 20 Apr 08
sage your prison metaphor was hilarious. i was laughiong about that as i read all the other comments.
i have to admit that i still side with Steve W for the most part. we'll get into the play-offs but i can't see us going up. whether that means AB should be sacked or not, i don't know.
didn't go yesterday (friend's wedding) but we have been awful at home of late (was at the hawthorns, though...)
well, if we get BC in the play-offs, i think we could win it at ashton gate (can't see us beating them at home though).
i will still be happy clapping. hope that doesn't offend you all too much.
kisses to all you posters, negative or otherwise
i have to admit that i still side with Steve W for the most part. we'll get into the play-offs but i can't see us going up. whether that means AB should be sacked or not, i don't know.
didn't go yesterday (friend's wedding) but we have been awful at home of late (was at the hawthorns, though...)
well, if we get BC in the play-offs, i think we could win it at ashton gate (can't see us beating them at home though).
i will still be happy clapping. hope that doesn't offend you all too much.
kisses to all you posters, negative or otherwise
nugget, east london says...
7:03am Sun 20 Apr 08
sheffield utd and charlton would like to be in u our position,they were relegated last season and are tailed off. all we need is couple of players to bang in a few goals and confidence comes back.keep your chins up and fight to the end. ps we could be luton town,look where they are!
luther67, watford says...
8:51am Sun 20 Apr 08
Usual sea of negativity here - and after another home defeat that's hardly surprising - but don't think this game should be lumped in with some of the other debacles like Barnsley. The fact is we dominated for large periods and looked the more likley to win it in the period before their two quickfire goals. But unfortunately with our strikers we're always going to struggle to turn posession into goals - a fact reflected in the ludicrous amount of draws. I'm as bemused by the McAnuff substitution as anyone but, in the spirit of retaining a little perspective, this was no-where near as bad as some posters are making out. Having said that, God knows how we'll beat anyone over two legs in the play-offs. If we even get there.
GaryQE2, London says...
9:50am Sun 20 Apr 08
nugget wrote:This slightly surreal contradiction runs through many of the posts ... securing a play off spot is good so why moan? .. but we have played some consistently dire stuff in recent months and Div 1 beckons:
sheffield utd and charlton would like to be in u our position,they were relegated last season and are tailed off. all we need is couple of players to bang in a few goals and confidence comes back.keep your chins up and fight to the end. ps we could be luton town,look where they are!
AB has been the common factor in both 'seasons' Manager during our dream runaway start start when we collected so many points we will still scrape into a play off spot.
Manager during the recent slump when every decison he makes is thrust under the microscope.
If we give credit to AJ, MK and Keith B. in the early season romp we must surely give credit for this success to AB too. If he halts the current slide and gets us promoted we will have the money to build the team. Come on you 'Orns.
Dogwalker, Watford says...
9:53am Sun 20 Apr 08
Total and utter crap again. I crossed my fingers and wished before the game that we might actually see some football, whatever the result. I was wasting my time when Shittu chested the ball down and then launched it into the Upper Rous. Please, dont get promoted, we'll only get Derbyfied or worse with this clown in charge. OUT!
Tiny Tim, Watford says...
10:08am Sun 20 Apr 08
Getting into the play-offs does constitute a successful season, but the fact of the matter is that we are in free-fall. 3 wins in 17 home games is terrible and we have won once in about 13 matches. Week in week out it is the same crap. We are getting worse.
Mark, Watford says...
10:11am Sun 20 Apr 08
The worry is we play like that next season it will be a fight against relegation.
We play much worse than we did under Lewington for example who had no money but got slated for getting us into mid table and 2 Cup semis..
Aidy had done well but he only piled pressure on himself with certain comments this season and seems to be cracking.
We play much worse than we did under Lewington for example who had no money but got slated for getting us into mid table and 2 Cup semis..
Aidy had done well but he only piled pressure on himself with certain comments this season and seems to be cracking.
Winston, watford says...
11:26am Sun 20 Apr 08
AB had no intention in winning this game - any manager with quality would have changed the format and made changes giving the team a chance - NOT in the last minutes of the game, you only do that when you are winning and need to defend your position.
As I have said before AB has an agenda but it is not one to get promoted, sorry no matter what at the end of the season be it promoted or stay in the championship AB must go!
As I have said before AB has an agenda but it is not one to get promoted, sorry no matter what at the end of the season be it promoted or stay in the championship AB must go!
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
11:29am Sun 20 Apr 08
The major worrying fact that puts Aidy's season into perspective is that when Warnock joined Palace they were 21 points behind us. Our form is what relegation threatened teams suffer from yet we are still in the top 5. How can a team that was doing so well early on suddenly do so badly? Well we have covered a lot of this in previous posts. If Aidy was to be tempted elsewhere then I think John Ward would be a good replacement - he has done wonders at Carlisle in a very short space of time and with very little money. Perhaps Aidy was better in the transfer market when he did not have the funds so readily available as he has recently. The situation at Watford is very much of his own making - poor signings, loss of key personnel (on and off the pitch), unwillingness to accept criticism, lack of range of tactics, poor use of reserve team fixtures to keep everybody match fit. He perhaps can't be blamed for losing Young, Bouazza and King, as you don't want players who want out - and we were well recompensed for them - and selling GM was right in so far as he wasn't going to get another contract and so it made business sense. There have been positives in Bromby, Johnson, Eustace, Sadler, O'Toole'e promotion from juniors. It is not all bad, but it is a long way from being good.
Sage your analogy on watching matches sums up how many feel - I am glad I can use the excuse that a 600 mile round trip is difficult to fit in with other activities. What you say about the manager's position is also right.
According to Chris Kamara we were on top for most of the game. We hit the post and bar, had a goal disallowed and were looking the more likely to score until they got their first. Our weakness all season has been getting the ball in the net, and that is why I can't understand why the bench warmers haven't had the opportunity to develop some confidence in the reserves which they can then carry on to the first team if they come on as subs. There's been so much I haven't understood about Aidy this season, and he obviously feels that his 3 years means he has passed his apprenticeship and he can have a free rein. I seem to remember GT using Bertie
Sage your analogy on watching matches sums up how many feel - I am glad I can use the excuse that a 600 mile round trip is difficult to fit in with other activities. What you say about the manager's position is also right.
According to Chris Kamara we were on top for most of the game. We hit the post and bar, had a goal disallowed and were looking the more likely to score until they got their first. Our weakness all season has been getting the ball in the net, and that is why I can't understand why the bench warmers haven't had the opportunity to develop some confidence in the reserves which they can then carry on to the first team if they come on as subs. There's been so much I haven't understood about Aidy this season, and he obviously feels that his 3 years means he has passed his apprenticeship and he can have a free rein. I seem to remember GT using Bertie
Angry, Watford says...
6:10pm Sat 19 Apr 08